Weird! This morning, I was thinking that as F up as Hiltler was; he taught by giving people a choice. Sadly, many people choose fear and/or greed to do his bidding. While others choose to listen to their intuition and flee. Then there were the ones who did what they believed was right, fought against this system even if they lost their lives.
Ugly? It's a beautiful story. A story of selection, of fighting the elements, winning and losing. A story of wars, peace, movement and settling. A story of survival and destruction. Of HUMAN achievement. That's a much more beautiful story than your story of a bingo caller on a high chair, playing bloody games with life.
Meaning? Our meaning is to survive this life and then do what the visitors to our planet did and go to another planet. Our meaning is to explore and survive.
Poetic beauty? You see that's all the bible ever was. A collection of poems collected together by Romans, under a vicious murderer, by the way, and edited to suit his murderous ways... A bit like this god bloke.
Of course the word Yom can mean whatever you want it to mean. This bloke god sits on his ass for billions of Yom and then suddenly decided "boom" a universe. "Boom" a set of planets. A few more billion years "BOOM". THAT ONE THERE. "BOOOOM." People.
Don't forget, their was a genocidal tyrant who murdered more people than everyone you named, put together.
There was a bloke called God who murdered communities at will and then every man, woman, child, animal, and insect in the whole world apart from an ass kissing family on a little boat.
This misogynist decided to bring pain to all women with periods and childbirth just for seeking knowledge.
This God who apparently could drown thousands of Egyptians, and make a President turn his head, couldn't be bothered to save the life of a Christian fireman behind the PRESIDENT.
No, it's not the tyrants, it's the cowards who follow the tyrants... And this, apparently, is the biggest tyrant of them all.
You sound like an atheist. You also sound whiny. If you haven't yet figured out that life brings challenges, and that we become better humans by figuring out how to deal with them then you are missing out on life's biggest adventures. Blaming deity for our troubles is denying the hero's journey, and removes both responsibility for our actions and the fruits of struggle.
Atheist? No. I have prayers, just not to this God bloke. Whiny? Since when has calling out lies and bullshit being whiny? Your speed to jump to insults says more about you than me, I guess. Whatever challenges you've had, I don't know. Me I take responsibility for mine and am as happy now than I've been for many years, many years.
Of course I blame this genocidal maniac...its apparent story is all about it SENDING pestilence and disease, before it sent a flood that apparently makes Texas, look like a swimming pool. Who else murdered the masses?
Blaming god - any god - for bad things happening isn't calling out BS, it's whiney, and no better than blaming other humans for our problems. God[s] isn't understandable in human terms. If you're framing the divine as a person who's out to get you, then your vision is more human than divine. Which looks pretty atheistic whatever you call yourself, or however you define 'prayers.'
From a psychological perspective blaming god[s] is an exercise in helplessness. Whether you're looking at Greek, Celtic, or Biblical mythology, there are plenty of stories from our past that tell us the best way to live to avoid deific consequences. But myths aren't literal. They were never intended to be literal. They're guides to steer us in the direction that will give us the best lives.
Be humble
Be generous
Be honest
Etc.
Blaming Yahweh for bad things happening is no better than thinking we're only bad because some subterranean fallen angel is the source of evil.
Take responsibility for what you can. [Like that rescue swimmer who saved 165 people.] Ask for help. Then have faith that whatever happens is what the gods want.
Yes, that could mean you die, your family dies, your pets die. We all have to make peace with that. No one gets out of here alive. Finding connection to deity makes that easier.
I am so sick of people ranting and raving against what they interpret as a shitty understanding of God, when they could be telling others about a better understanding of God.
Here is my take: We are made of stardust and love. God created it all, but it is unfinished, Creation goes on. It's pretty amazing as it is... having gone from howling hot emptiness to much beauty, goodness, truth. But it needs to evolve to a better place as well.
I give thanks for being among those who somehow lucked out into this outstanding adventure. :-)
I believe I understand the story of this God. First it created a world and put animals on it first. Wait it didn't did it? It put a man on, stole his rib to make a woman then punished the woman for wanting knowledge.
I have a feeling drugs were used because she talked to a snake.
Then their two sons fought and one was forced out of the home. But there was no other humans around so the son must have had sex with the mother, right?
Then this god went to town. Killing Egyptian children and soldiers. Bringing down walls of Jericho so the people could be slaughtered. Then it went full Attilla the Hun and drowned every man, woman, child, animal, insect and plant.
I got that from the bible. And the bible is the TRUTH right?
Here is a challenge: What is your own understanding of how the universe began and what it all means? I hope it's something better than "we are just moss floating on a rock in a universe without meaning."
No. The Earth was created in the same way every other planet, star, black hole and rock was created. An explosion of gases...and science is exploring the fact that there are signs even now of the universe expanding at a rate that will cause another explosion.
After that there is growing evidence that at least one civilisation came before us and that we were created by the cohabitation of aliens and the civilization already here.
What there is no sign of is the Earth being created in seven days.
I'd say that my broken record has more credibility than yours.
The perennial cry of the believer in Marxism: 'they just didn't do it RIGHT!' If the mere attempts killed 100 million, then maybe we should stop trying. Marx was a horrible human being. He abused and cheated on his wife, never made an income of his own, didn't freaking BATHE, and his poetry was seriously dark. He couldn't have created anything but what he did, an ideology that supported resentment and envy, the worst traits of humanity.
By current regime are you talking about the treasonous obama and the clinton woman? Surely not the man who has closed obama's open border to child sex trafficking and teenage prostitution? Surely not the man working day and night to end obama's war in Russia?
Weird! This morning, I was thinking that as F up as Hiltler was; he taught by giving people a choice. Sadly, many people choose fear and/or greed to do his bidding. While others choose to listen to their intuition and flee. Then there were the ones who did what they believed was right, fought against this system even if they lost their lives.
There are so many noble stories about those who saved people!
Such courage!
Ugly? It's a beautiful story. A story of selection, of fighting the elements, winning and losing. A story of wars, peace, movement and settling. A story of survival and destruction. Of HUMAN achievement. That's a much more beautiful story than your story of a bingo caller on a high chair, playing bloody games with life.
Meaning? Our meaning is to survive this life and then do what the visitors to our planet did and go to another planet. Our meaning is to explore and survive.
Poetic beauty? You see that's all the bible ever was. A collection of poems collected together by Romans, under a vicious murderer, by the way, and edited to suit his murderous ways... A bit like this god bloke.
Of course the word Yom can mean whatever you want it to mean. This bloke god sits on his ass for billions of Yom and then suddenly decided "boom" a universe. "Boom" a set of planets. A few more billion years "BOOM". THAT ONE THERE. "BOOOOM." People.
Then Boom...I'll murder them all and start again.
Don't forget, their was a genocidal tyrant who murdered more people than everyone you named, put together.
There was a bloke called God who murdered communities at will and then every man, woman, child, animal, and insect in the whole world apart from an ass kissing family on a little boat.
This misogynist decided to bring pain to all women with periods and childbirth just for seeking knowledge.
This God who apparently could drown thousands of Egyptians, and make a President turn his head, couldn't be bothered to save the life of a Christian fireman behind the PRESIDENT.
No, it's not the tyrants, it's the cowards who follow the tyrants... And this, apparently, is the biggest tyrant of them all.
You sound like an atheist. You also sound whiny. If you haven't yet figured out that life brings challenges, and that we become better humans by figuring out how to deal with them then you are missing out on life's biggest adventures. Blaming deity for our troubles is denying the hero's journey, and removes both responsibility for our actions and the fruits of struggle.
Atheist? No. I have prayers, just not to this God bloke. Whiny? Since when has calling out lies and bullshit being whiny? Your speed to jump to insults says more about you than me, I guess. Whatever challenges you've had, I don't know. Me I take responsibility for mine and am as happy now than I've been for many years, many years.
Of course I blame this genocidal maniac...its apparent story is all about it SENDING pestilence and disease, before it sent a flood that apparently makes Texas, look like a swimming pool. Who else murdered the masses?
[Shrugs] You did sound like an atheist.
Blaming god - any god - for bad things happening isn't calling out BS, it's whiney, and no better than blaming other humans for our problems. God[s] isn't understandable in human terms. If you're framing the divine as a person who's out to get you, then your vision is more human than divine. Which looks pretty atheistic whatever you call yourself, or however you define 'prayers.'
From a psychological perspective blaming god[s] is an exercise in helplessness. Whether you're looking at Greek, Celtic, or Biblical mythology, there are plenty of stories from our past that tell us the best way to live to avoid deific consequences. But myths aren't literal. They were never intended to be literal. They're guides to steer us in the direction that will give us the best lives.
Be humble
Be generous
Be honest
Etc.
Blaming Yahweh for bad things happening is no better than thinking we're only bad because some subterranean fallen angel is the source of evil.
Take responsibility for what you can. [Like that rescue swimmer who saved 165 people.] Ask for help. Then have faith that whatever happens is what the gods want.
Yes, that could mean you die, your family dies, your pets die. We all have to make peace with that. No one gets out of here alive. Finding connection to deity makes that easier.
What a silly rant.
I am so sick of people ranting and raving against what they interpret as a shitty understanding of God, when they could be telling others about a better understanding of God.
Here is my take: We are made of stardust and love. God created it all, but it is unfinished, Creation goes on. It's pretty amazing as it is... having gone from howling hot emptiness to much beauty, goodness, truth. But it needs to evolve to a better place as well.
I give thanks for being among those who somehow lucked out into this outstanding adventure. :-)
I believe I understand the story of this God. First it created a world and put animals on it first. Wait it didn't did it? It put a man on, stole his rib to make a woman then punished the woman for wanting knowledge.
I have a feeling drugs were used because she talked to a snake.
Then their two sons fought and one was forced out of the home. But there was no other humans around so the son must have had sex with the mother, right?
Then this god went to town. Killing Egyptian children and soldiers. Bringing down walls of Jericho so the people could be slaughtered. Then it went full Attilla the Hun and drowned every man, woman, child, animal, insect and plant.
I got that from the bible. And the bible is the TRUTH right?
Hello? You sound like a broken record.
Here is a challenge: What is your own understanding of how the universe began and what it all means? I hope it's something better than "we are just moss floating on a rock in a universe without meaning."
No. The Earth was created in the same way every other planet, star, black hole and rock was created. An explosion of gases...and science is exploring the fact that there are signs even now of the universe expanding at a rate that will cause another explosion.
After that there is growing evidence that at least one civilisation came before us and that we were created by the cohabitation of aliens and the civilization already here.
What there is no sign of is the Earth being created in seven days.
I'd say that my broken record has more credibility than yours.
Aha. Blind chance. Pointless. No meaning anywhere. Oi.
And you think this ugly story is better than the poetic beauty and grandeur of early Genesis? Yish.
The word yom can mean a day or an eon.
The perennial cry of the believer in Marxism: 'they just didn't do it RIGHT!' If the mere attempts killed 100 million, then maybe we should stop trying. Marx was a horrible human being. He abused and cheated on his wife, never made an income of his own, didn't freaking BATHE, and his poetry was seriously dark. He couldn't have created anything but what he did, an ideology that supported resentment and envy, the worst traits of humanity.
By current regime are you talking about the treasonous obama and the clinton woman? Surely not the man who has closed obama's open border to child sex trafficking and teenage prostitution? Surely not the man working day and night to end obama's war in Russia?